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	<title>Comments on: Obama and the end of exceptionalism</title>
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		<title>By: Welbith Mota</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2009/06/22/obama-and-the-end-of-exceptionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-7052</link>
		<dc:creator>Welbith Mota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to comment on one particular point made by Mr. Dumm. It revolves around his enquiry into the relationship between the notion of maturity and Obama.

Mr. Dumm states that “putting away childish things means growing up.” He says that “Growing up means speaking first, sticking your neck out, and saying what is true and just regardless of the consequences for yourself.” Mr. Dumm concludes by noting that the president has yet to do these things, and therefore “has yet to grow up.” 

But I do not believe that Mr. Dumm thinks of Obama as infantile. 

In fact, given Mr. Dumm’s entire analyses, it seems to me that he himself must (and does) acknowledge the President’s unique sensibility to the responsibilities of being an adult.  

But since the issue is not so much the President’s (im)maturity, what is it? Mr. Dumm knows exactly: 

…If WE do not learn to live more humble lives…and replace our foolish dreams…WE will suffer…WE will if WE finally face the truth….WE… WE have suffered in order to acquire this strange empire WE are now losing…it is time [THAT WE]… put away childish things.

In other words, the real, and much more complex issue is that Mr. Obama is the political leader of an immature nation, a citizenry composed of a people who, for various reasons, have proudly shut the door on maturity. A people described by Cornell West as “sleepwalkers.” 

It does not seem preposterous to suggest that America is seeing the vast majority of its citizens skip adulthood altogether, resulting in what appears to be a society made up of mostly children-adults---i.e., folks who wish to lead forever jejune lives. Individuals who do not wish to take on the responsibilities of democratic adulthood. And while one can understand the hesitation and concerns, in the end, enough of these people create a citizenry that is made up of tall, adulterated children, and, by definition, a corrupt state. 

Alone, no President can change the direction of this nation.  For that we need a mature citizenry as well. We need people who are not afraid of being critical, we need an army of folks that are committed not only to their own happiness, but to the happiness of others; it will require individuals to be in tune with the misery and suffering of other bodies and things (both at home home, home, and abroad). In short, we need a citizenry committed to retaining a child’s sense of play, curiosity, and compassion. Perhaps most importantly, we need folks that fully accept the difficult responsibilities that come with living in a so-called democratic system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to comment on one particular point made by Mr. Dumm. It revolves around his enquiry into the relationship between the notion of maturity and Obama.</p>
<p>Mr. Dumm states that “putting away childish things means growing up.” He says that “Growing up means speaking first, sticking your neck out, and saying what is true and just regardless of the consequences for yourself.” Mr. Dumm concludes by noting that the president has yet to do these things, and therefore “has yet to grow up.” </p>
<p>But I do not believe that Mr. Dumm thinks of Obama as infantile. </p>
<p>In fact, given Mr. Dumm’s entire analyses, it seems to me that he himself must (and does) acknowledge the President’s unique sensibility to the responsibilities of being an adult.  </p>
<p>But since the issue is not so much the President’s (im)maturity, what is it? Mr. Dumm knows exactly: </p>
<p>…If WE do not learn to live more humble lives…and replace our foolish dreams…WE will suffer…WE will if WE finally face the truth….WE… WE have suffered in order to acquire this strange empire WE are now losing…it is time [THAT WE]… put away childish things.</p>
<p>In other words, the real, and much more complex issue is that Mr. Obama is the political leader of an immature nation, a citizenry composed of a people who, for various reasons, have proudly shut the door on maturity. A people described by Cornell West as “sleepwalkers.” </p>
<p>It does not seem preposterous to suggest that America is seeing the vast majority of its citizens skip adulthood altogether, resulting in what appears to be a society made up of mostly children-adults&#8212;i.e., folks who wish to lead forever jejune lives. Individuals who do not wish to take on the responsibilities of democratic adulthood. And while one can understand the hesitation and concerns, in the end, enough of these people create a citizenry that is made up of tall, adulterated children, and, by definition, a corrupt state. </p>
<p>Alone, no President can change the direction of this nation.  For that we need a mature citizenry as well. We need people who are not afraid of being critical, we need an army of folks that are committed not only to their own happiness, but to the happiness of others; it will require individuals to be in tune with the misery and suffering of other bodies and things (both at home home, home, and abroad). In short, we need a citizenry committed to retaining a child’s sense of play, curiosity, and compassion. Perhaps most importantly, we need folks that fully accept the difficult responsibilities that come with living in a so-called democratic system.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin Scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2009/06/22/obama-and-the-end-of-exceptionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-7008</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Thomas Dumm’s article there emerges a certain sense of tragic inevitability about the decline of America as a country. All countries after all, “decline in their own timetables and in their own ways.” Incorporated in America’s mythical conception of itself however, is a conviction that as a nation we possess something enduring and indestructible because of its transcendent truth. Freedom for instance, is conceived as worthy of protection so that it remains accessible to all citizens and theoretically all people. There is something that we stand for which time and trial cannot kill at the root. If this is the case, then America has something to offer which belongs to all nations and their people; a thought that should inform the formation and execution of foreign policy and diplomacy. If we claim to uphold the fundamental ideologies of equality and liberty then we must recognize that they inherently extend to all people, all countries and all ethnic groups. If these ideologies do not speak for all of humanity I do not think they can ever adequately speak for an America that increasingly reflects the image of a global community within its new and native citizenry. 

    The addiction to newness that Dumm refers to it is not necessarily a negative component to an American identity; regeneration, re-birth and transformation are all powerfully effective themes for humanity and have inspired projects of immense difficulty and tremendous benefit for many. It is this addiction or attraction to newness that will be useful in the formation of a new American identity, one in which our voice will not be the loudest in a chorus of international concerns and global initiatives. America has been described by Obama and others as being in a time of crisis and at a pivotal point in regards to its own future success and well being. The challenges that America faces however are not simply of internal import, they are of global significance. No one leader or even the entire American populace can single handedly tidy up the economic and environmental injustice that strains the country, for the nature of the modern world is marked by inextricable links and relationships between industrialized nations. American needs to find its place amidst a pantheon of powers and finally relinquish its self prophetic vision as omnipotent savior and benevolent leader of the world.

      I will also suggest that decline need not be perceived as so catastrophic an occurrence. Dumm points out that what we need at this point is someone to manage our decline without destroying the world, and I agree with this statement.  Yet what if our decline as a superpower that greatly affects the welfare of so many millions worldwide, signals only a more equitable distribution of power and political efficacy? It is an error I think to cast ourselves as the super hero in a world drama trying to reclaim his infallible identity and use his power for good before another country (or superhero) uses it for evil. Prevalent in some of the discourse about the possible decline of America as a super power is the idea of its right to power, despite countless examples of its insufficiency as the world’s sole arbiter of justice and charity. Obama will indeed have to face the possibility of America’s decline as a superpower but this in itself may not be the challenge.

   Can America maintain a sense of its exceptionalism in a world in which it is not the mightiest, or is the age of exceptionalism, as the author suggests, passing away altogether? Even if Obama’s task is not to place America once again on a pedestal of benevolence and power, a test that requires his dynamic leadership is still at hand. Obama’s greatest accomplishment could be to help Americans realize the effectiveness of embracing our weaknesses and allying our frailties to the strengths and wisdom of other nations. It is a transformation that does not require us to abandon what is beneficial in our power or what remains valuable in the enduring things of “old”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Thomas Dumm’s article there emerges a certain sense of tragic inevitability about the decline of America as a country. All countries after all, “decline in their own timetables and in their own ways.” Incorporated in America’s mythical conception of itself however, is a conviction that as a nation we possess something enduring and indestructible because of its transcendent truth. Freedom for instance, is conceived as worthy of protection so that it remains accessible to all citizens and theoretically all people. There is something that we stand for which time and trial cannot kill at the root. If this is the case, then America has something to offer which belongs to all nations and their people; a thought that should inform the formation and execution of foreign policy and diplomacy. If we claim to uphold the fundamental ideologies of equality and liberty then we must recognize that they inherently extend to all people, all countries and all ethnic groups. If these ideologies do not speak for all of humanity I do not think they can ever adequately speak for an America that increasingly reflects the image of a global community within its new and native citizenry. </p>
<p>    The addiction to newness that Dumm refers to it is not necessarily a negative component to an American identity; regeneration, re-birth and transformation are all powerfully effective themes for humanity and have inspired projects of immense difficulty and tremendous benefit for many. It is this addiction or attraction to newness that will be useful in the formation of a new American identity, one in which our voice will not be the loudest in a chorus of international concerns and global initiatives. America has been described by Obama and others as being in a time of crisis and at a pivotal point in regards to its own future success and well being. The challenges that America faces however are not simply of internal import, they are of global significance. No one leader or even the entire American populace can single handedly tidy up the economic and environmental injustice that strains the country, for the nature of the modern world is marked by inextricable links and relationships between industrialized nations. American needs to find its place amidst a pantheon of powers and finally relinquish its self prophetic vision as omnipotent savior and benevolent leader of the world.</p>
<p>      I will also suggest that decline need not be perceived as so catastrophic an occurrence. Dumm points out that what we need at this point is someone to manage our decline without destroying the world, and I agree with this statement.  Yet what if our decline as a superpower that greatly affects the welfare of so many millions worldwide, signals only a more equitable distribution of power and political efficacy? It is an error I think to cast ourselves as the super hero in a world drama trying to reclaim his infallible identity and use his power for good before another country (or superhero) uses it for evil. Prevalent in some of the discourse about the possible decline of America as a super power is the idea of its right to power, despite countless examples of its insufficiency as the world’s sole arbiter of justice and charity. Obama will indeed have to face the possibility of America’s decline as a superpower but this in itself may not be the challenge.</p>
<p>   Can America maintain a sense of its exceptionalism in a world in which it is not the mightiest, or is the age of exceptionalism, as the author suggests, passing away altogether? Even if Obama’s task is not to place America once again on a pedestal of benevolence and power, a test that requires his dynamic leadership is still at hand. Obama’s greatest accomplishment could be to help Americans realize the effectiveness of embracing our weaknesses and allying our frailties to the strengths and wisdom of other nations. It is a transformation that does not require us to abandon what is beneficial in our power or what remains valuable in the enduring things of “old”.</p>
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