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	<title>Comments on: What inspires us &amp; what holds us together</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Norwine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Norwine</dc:creator>
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		<description>I want to ask Professor Taylor if his take on fullness is not finally too generous.  (I say this in spite of the fact that, I think like Taylor&#039;s, my own worldview is &quot;postmodern&quot; in being at once both orthodox [conservative Lutheran in my instance] and yet also non-hegemonic.  That is, this sort of hybrid or what might be thought of as &quot;transmodern&quot; orthodoxy is sufficiently modest to accept the truth that my belief that &quot;my way is the highway&quot; is only that: my belief.  Who am I to dictate to the Always-So concerning the legitimacy of other paths...?)  I sympathize with his desire to be inclusive but question whether in fact fullness, real fullness, is possible in a secular Weltanschauung.  Here I am more or less equating fullness with what Leslek Kolakowski calls &quot;special significance&quot;.  Kolakowski makes it clear that he thinks that, absent God, such capital-M meaning is not available to us.  It is nihilism, soft or hard, all the way down.  Philip Rieff, in his brilliant 2006 screed &quot;My Life Among the Deathworks,&quot; makes I think the same argument, i.e., that the now-dominant postmodern or what he terms &quot;third&quot; culture is doomed because of its rejection of the &quot;vertical in authority&quot;.  Atheism is of course an entirely reasonable perspective, but if one takes the king&#039;s shilling does not one have to live with the consequences of that decision?  To suggest that real fullness still somehow remains in a heartless existence in which special-significance meaning has been slain seems to me at the very least disengenuous, something like when supposedly devout Christians go through life blithely ignoring our soul-test to defend the poor and powerless.  
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to ask Professor Taylor if his take on fullness is not finally too generous.  (I say this in spite of the fact that, I think like Taylor&#8217;s, my own worldview is &#8220;postmodern&#8221; in being at once both orthodox [conservative Lutheran in my instance] and yet also non-hegemonic.  That is, this sort of hybrid or what might be thought of as &#8220;transmodern&#8221; orthodoxy is sufficiently modest to accept the truth that my belief that &#8220;my way is the highway&#8221; is only that: my belief.  Who am I to dictate to the Always-So concerning the legitimacy of other paths&#8230;?)  I sympathize with his desire to be inclusive but question whether in fact fullness, real fullness, is possible in a secular Weltanschauung.  Here I am more or less equating fullness with what Leslek Kolakowski calls &#8220;special significance&#8221;.  Kolakowski makes it clear that he thinks that, absent God, such capital-M meaning is not available to us.  It is nihilism, soft or hard, all the way down.  Philip Rieff, in his brilliant 2006 screed &#8220;My Life Among the Deathworks,&#8221; makes I think the same argument, i.e., that the now-dominant postmodern or what he terms &#8220;third&#8221; culture is doomed because of its rejection of the &#8220;vertical in authority&#8221;.  Atheism is of course an entirely reasonable perspective, but if one takes the king&#8217;s shilling does not one have to live with the consequences of that decision?  To suggest that real fullness still somehow remains in a heartless existence in which special-significance meaning has been slain seems to me at the very least disengenuous, something like when supposedly devout Christians go through life blithely ignoring our soul-test to defend the poor and powerless.<br />
Thank you</p>
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