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	<title>Comments on: Mamdani and the Uses of Darfur</title>
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		<title>By: Eamon Kircher-Allen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ssrc.org/darfur/2009/04/18/a-welcome-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Eamon Kircher-Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the most thoughtful criticisms of Mamdani&#039;s work that I have read. I like the point about the &quot;media&quot; -- an inexact term that glosses over the range of effort and thinking that goes into a lot of reporting. You&#039;re right: there&#039;s no reason not to be more specific. (We can try to be, though; here&#039;s an essay I wrote about NY Times reporting on Darfur; Mamdani&#039;s thinking definitely influenced it: http://longgonedaddy.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/good-guys-and-bad-guys-in-sudan/)

I think it&#039;s a stretch, however, to say that Mamdani is exploiting Darfur. I imagine his intellectual enthusiasm for the subject stems from the fact that American activism around Darfur illustrates an intersection of different political forces that are particular to the era of the GWOT. Has he skewed major facts in the service of this enthusiasm? My impression is no.

Also, you may be right that Darfur advocates are &quot;doing nothing more objectionable than what hundreds, even thousands, of American civic activists do every day&quot;. Still, the movement is different from other lobbies I can think of, in that the majority of people backing it have no direct stake in what happens in Sudan. (Maybe Free Tibet is comparable.) In most cases, foreign policy advocates have some sort of connection to the countries they talk about. I think that difference is very interesting and merits the kind of energy that Mamdani and everyone on this blog are devoting to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most thoughtful criticisms of Mamdani&#8217;s work that I have read. I like the point about the &#8220;media&#8221; &#8212; an inexact term that glosses over the range of effort and thinking that goes into a lot of reporting. You&#8217;re right: there&#8217;s no reason not to be more specific. (We can try to be, though; here&#8217;s an essay I wrote about NY Times reporting on Darfur; Mamdani&#8217;s thinking definitely influenced it: <a href="http://longgonedaddy.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/good-guys-and-bad-guys-in-sudan/)" rel="nofollow">http://longgonedaddy.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/good-guys-and-bad-guys-in-sudan/)</a></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a stretch, however, to say that Mamdani is exploiting Darfur. I imagine his intellectual enthusiasm for the subject stems from the fact that American activism around Darfur illustrates an intersection of different political forces that are particular to the era of the GWOT. Has he skewed major facts in the service of this enthusiasm? My impression is no.</p>
<p>Also, you may be right that Darfur advocates are &#8220;doing nothing more objectionable than what hundreds, even thousands, of American civic activists do every day&#8221;. Still, the movement is different from other lobbies I can think of, in that the majority of people backing it have no direct stake in what happens in Sudan. (Maybe Free Tibet is comparable.) In most cases, foreign policy advocates have some sort of connection to the countries they talk about. I think that difference is very interesting and merits the kind of energy that Mamdani and everyone on this blog are devoting to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vagn Sparre-Ulrich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ssrc.org/darfur/2009/04/18/a-welcome-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-3425</link>
		<dc:creator>Vagn Sparre-Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jenny...

I read this thing of Alex Harmon Snow you referred to! It was interesting and refreshing to read such a biased piece, which often does not refer to the sources the conclusions are based on. But on the other hand, some of the conclusions have a core of truth. For example, the cargo ship hijacked by Somali pirates (that is what they are) which according to some sources was loaded with military hardware including tanks for the South Sudanese government (probably in order to strenghen its military capacity versus the army of Omar El Beshir&#039;s Northerners). How come it was owned by an Israeli and the whole story behind it is very interesting and points (to my best knowledge) towards the grey zone where intelligence services wishing to cover their moves are operating. It could very well be one example of CIA clandestine operation supporting the Southerners against the North and Omar El Beshir&#039;s government paid by the Americans. One example, maybe, of an American hidden hand playing in the quagmire of Sudanese entangled politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jenny&#8230;</p>
<p>I read this thing of Alex Harmon Snow you referred to! It was interesting and refreshing to read such a biased piece, which often does not refer to the sources the conclusions are based on. But on the other hand, some of the conclusions have a core of truth. For example, the cargo ship hijacked by Somali pirates (that is what they are) which according to some sources was loaded with military hardware including tanks for the South Sudanese government (probably in order to strenghen its military capacity versus the army of Omar El Beshir&#8217;s Northerners). How come it was owned by an Israeli and the whole story behind it is very interesting and points (to my best knowledge) towards the grey zone where intelligence services wishing to cover their moves are operating. It could very well be one example of CIA clandestine operation supporting the Southerners against the North and Omar El Beshir&#8217;s government paid by the Americans. One example, maybe, of an American hidden hand playing in the quagmire of Sudanese entangled politics.</p>
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		<title>By: jina</title>
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		<dc:creator>jina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not wading into this, because I haven&#039;t yet read the book, except to point out that it was in fact Mamdani&#039;s earlier London Review of Books essay, &quot;The Politics of Naming,&quot; which did a lot two years ago to kick start precisely the conversation now &quot;very alive in the blogosphere.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not wading into this, because I haven&#8217;t yet read the book, except to point out that it was in fact Mamdani&#8217;s earlier London Review of Books essay, &#8220;The Politics of Naming,&#8221; which did a lot two years ago to kick start precisely the conversation now &#8220;very alive in the blogosphere.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ana Majnun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ssrc.org/darfur/2009/04/18/a-welcome-intellectualism/comment-page-1/#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>Ana Majnun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habibi, 
“The tendency of African governments has been to play reform in one sphere against repression in the other” is not an axiom, it is just a sentence, and a pretty bad one at that.  Notice the hedging &quot;tendency&quot; (so can never be falsified) and the meaningless &quot;play&quot; (what exactly does it mean?) and then the un-evocative &quot;sphere&quot;... (oh, I forgot, social systems always come in circles, and in twos).
But I agree with your analysis of Mamdani&#039;s talk and book. And you are so very right about his being unable to reconcile the rather small role of Save Darfur with the centrality to his message- especially since the critique he makes had already been very alive in the blogosphere and this (Alex&#039;s) blog in particular.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habibi,<br />
“The tendency of African governments has been to play reform in one sphere against repression in the other” is not an axiom, it is just a sentence, and a pretty bad one at that.  Notice the hedging &#8220;tendency&#8221; (so can never be falsified) and the meaningless &#8220;play&#8221; (what exactly does it mean?) and then the un-evocative &#8220;sphere&#8221;&#8230; (oh, I forgot, social systems always come in circles, and in twos).<br />
But I agree with your analysis of Mamdani&#8217;s talk and book. And you are so very right about his being unable to reconcile the rather small role of Save Darfur with the centrality to his message- especially since the critique he makes had already been very alive in the blogosphere and this (Alex&#8217;s) blog in particular.<br />
Ana</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm..Interestingly, his bias seems similar if more mild  to Alex Harmon Snow&#039;s: http://www.allthingspass.com/uploads/html-264THE%20WINTER%20OF%20BASHIRS%20DISCONTENT.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm..Interestingly, his bias seems similar if more mild  to Alex Harmon Snow&#8217;s: <a href="http://www.allthingspass.com/uploads/html-264THE%20WINTER%20OF%20BASHIRS%20DISCONTENT.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.allthingspass.com/uploads/html-264THE%20WINTER%20OF%20BASHIRS%20DISCONTENT.htm</a></p>
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